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BIDEN DOMINATING!
I'm obviously biased, but Biden is going great guns in my view
Biden smirks in the cut aways I see, like a bear thinking about all the various ways he can effectively maim a bunny.
you should crosspost this to the front of sift talk, it's why I didn't see it...
OK.
I have to admit that she's not doing as poorly, (so far) as I expected. Much better than the Couric interviews. Debate camp must work.
Except that she's just veering things back onto her pre-learned scripts... but the problem is the most people won't notice that she's just doing that.
And lying through her teeth on a number of points.
Urgh
All Presidential debates need Quake Announcers.
BIDEN DOMINATING!
lmao! HEAD SHOT!!
oops - upvoted the wrong comment. That one's pretty good too, though.
I can't wait until they get into Foreign policy.
Better than looking for more oil, I grant you, but nooo, not 'clean coal'
Did war in Iraq start in 2007?
Government shouldn't be involved in marriage. Period.
But what they're talking about is the benefits given to long term couples. You MUST give the same benefits to those couples of either sex that are together in a committed relationship.
If religion wants to take the word 'marriage' and not let others have it ok... but don't suggest that the government shouldn't guarantee the rights of couples for welfare, rights, etc.
^agreed. I want to be able to marry my toaster.
And you should have a right to that if that's what you're into.
Ugh
>> ^blankfist:
Government shouldn't be involved in marriage. Period.
But what they're talking about is the benefits given to long term couples. You MUST give the same benefits to those couples of either sex that are together in a committed relationship.
If religion wants to take the word 'marriage' and not let others have it ok... but don't suggest that the government shouldn't guarantee the rights of couples for welfare, rights, etc.
I agree. And those benefits should be nothing if marriage is the criteria to qualify for them.
oooh, looks like the war... bugger
Do you think that the Jewish people are going to let that happen? Why Do we have to help, I think they are capable of defending themselves very well.
They have good martial arts Krav maga.
What the fuck is with this media narrative like the war in Iraq started in 2007 with the Surge? What about the 2003? 2004? 2005? OIF1 doesn't even count it seems.
Idiot
Good on Biden for attacking the point
I'd love to read her index cards, probably a hell of a study system.
Biden is expected to be great at this, she isn't.
She still sucks in a huge way, but people aren't really looking at her critically, they're just looking for a really embarrassing gaff, if she doesn't make one then she'll be seen as doing a great job.... JUST BECAUSE SHE MADE IT THROUGH.
Set the bar low and be amazed that she can step over it.
So sad.
...
Um...
Bridge to nowhere?
Anyone?
Anyone?
He's fucking Frodo on a quest to Mordor.
Oh, I know I'll move on to talking about bullshit 'he knows how to win a war'
Such crap
The surge cannot work in Afghanistan, its a different set of people and environment. Furthermore where are you going to get the troops from?
Canada anyone?
Self calling yourselves mavericks DOES NOT MAKE IT SO!
In a report on army times, they had a recent attack and loss of a fire base, below a high vantage point village.
The Taliban is actually attacking from Waziristan in full on offensives, they do not wanna give up the Opium trade.
F*CK OFF RELIGION FROM POLITICS
To play us out... there's no words there.
Fuck it will do it live.
and now palin does.
Very good sir you get 5 internets.
A huge empty state.
Got choked up there... I like that.
If she says maverick one more time.
"Her reward is in heaven"? F CK OFF. RELIGION HAS NO PART IN POLITICS
F CK OFF RELIGION FROM POLITICS
Yeah, I thought that was kind of a weird back-handed compliment at first. But it is a fairly well known colloquialism for doing noble work for shit pay. Should play well with her base.
Shows how little I know of him though... I had no idea he'd lost his wife and some kids.
She is name dropping Reagan. Priceless.
She did it before, but so did Biden. Big deal. Most Americans still think he was one of the greatest presidents of US for ending the cold war.
>> ^NordlichReiter:
His wife and daughter died?
His first wife and a daughter from that marriage died in a car accident. His son survived the accident I think.
[edit] I wasn't watching at that point. Apparently two sons survived, leaving him a single parent with two young boys.
/b/tards out there?
Please, fuck of with the whole 'good, simple folk' bullshit
DRILL BABY DRILL
Someone should ____ some sense into Palin. You fill in the blank anyway you wish.
"slowly ease, using oil from a multinational conglomerate as a lubricant," ?
Still all Americans deserve a hug, because to have someone like her up there running for the office of VP is just tragic.
I think her wavering performance just pushed alot of people into the Obama camp.
Dont know how reliable the site is but meh
shuac, I think if you look at the replay, she fumbled at least a couple of times, but tended to recover. So, unless you think it's a disaster that she didn't implode, then I give advantage to Biden. But not a big one.
I think the big question for Palin is can she now go out on the campaign trail and keep this up. It was the same question after her acceptance speech, for which she was also heavily coached. She failed to impress already on her own, and I think she will again if they let her.
oops, wrong thread.
[edit]woot! Dodgers 10, Cubs 3 - series 2 - 0 heading back to L.A.!
I just had sex. With a WOMAN! Thought you all would like to know that.
* lies
Bullcrap on both sides, no real substance, Biden dodged everything thrown at him (Hussein Obama's war voting record, his spending plans, etc...), and Miss Palin looked ravishing, but not perfectly prepared, although that was expected.
I'd give the debate a C-, Biden a D, and Miss Palin a B-
farhad - I think you may have reverse beer goggles on. You're assuming that the average voter in the US is more concerned with Biden's command of facts and issues versus Palin's hockey mom charm. No doubt Biden kicked her ass on substantive points, but she often was able to successfully retort with bumper sticker slogans (thanks SG - that's a great line - hmmm, BSG 9000?).
Oh yea I forgot. Most Americans are simpletons and pick their heads of state based on whether or not they would like to have a beer with them.
Biden should have mopped the floor with her, but didn't.
There were a lot of things he could have thrown at her
1) Why her husband was a member of a secessionist group?
2) Why is New Orleans still messed up and at risk THREE years after Katrina?
3) If Palin is all about change, he should have asked her what specifically she disagreed with in the Bush/Cheney administration, and when did she or McCain voice that disagreement?
4) Why does she want even more power for the VP office than exists now?
And a long list of other things.
Palin got off easy, and Biden was too verbose.
> Miss Palin looked ravishing, but not perfectly prepared, although that was expected.
is she anything but an inflatable fuckdoll to you?
every single time you describe her, you start with her appearance.
and she's married, btw. so it's Mrs or Gov Palin, that you shouldn't be coveting.
They take the most moronic and incompetent pro-Rape-babies, moose hunting, wolf killer.. And turn her into a pariah and raise the bar SOOOOO low by being disrespectful and taking the mouth-breathing republithug route on attacking her. They lowered the bar so low she doesn't even have to be able to talk in coherent sentences to appear to be successful.
NuuuUUcuuulear. Great we have another halfwit governor from an oil rich state with complete lack of curiosity about the world soon to be the next president. Bravo Democrats. You might as well replace Biden with Lieberman at this point.
>> ^Farhad2000:
>> ^jonny:
farhad - I think you may have reverse beer goggles on. You're assuming that the average voter in the US is more concerned with Biden's command of facts and issues versus Palin's hockey mom charm. No doubt Biden kicked her ass on substantive points, but she often was able to successfully retort with bumper sticker slogans (thanks SG - that's a great line - hmmm, BSG 9000?).
Oh yea I forgot. Most Americans are simpletons and pick their heads of state based on whether or not they would like to have a beer with them.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. No, most Americans are not simpletons, and they also know that no one has all the answers. That's why it is easier to lead them towards a "straight-talker" instead of a policy wonk. When someone comes off as a know-it-all, it doesn't ring true, because everyone knows better. Individually, they may not have any coherent response to a particular issue, but anyone that comes across as "I know all about this stuff better than you" is viewed with great suspicion. Look at GWB's first presidential campaign. Or Reagan versus Carter.
And that goes back to rougy's point about Biden not clobbering her when he could have. He would have come off as "Mr. Smarty-pants", and she would have been the darling with good sense and decent values.
They take the most moronic and incompetent pro-Rape-babies, moose hunting, wolf killer.. And turn her into a pariah and raise the bar SOOOOO low by being disrespectful and taking the mouth-breathing republithug route on attacking her. They lowered the bar so low she doesn't even have to be able to talk in coherent sentences to appear to be successful.
wow - and I thought I was the resident cynic.
Her blatant ignoring of her weakness question was just pathetic.
That was the first round of a one-round prize fight and the rookie left the ring standing.
This was supposed to have been a political debate, and in that regard biden outclassed her by leaps and bounds. It was a no-brainer who had the the more knowledge, experience and better political instinct, just like it was completely obvious who would make the better vice president. Not only that, but Biden did an amazing job in selling the democratic viewpoint while Palin completely missed her chances to give a coherent and correct republican view.